tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post1741676520375188505..comments2023-10-16T06:06:25.012-04:00Comments on TaoSecurity Blog: Daniel Ellsberg on SecretsRichard Bejtlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13512184196416665417noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-14425902593159912332015-01-09T15:28:14.123-05:002015-01-09T15:28:14.123-05:00Dre, I appreciate the tone you took in your commen...Dre, I appreciate the tone you took in your comments. It's one of the more reasonable arguments I've seen. And that's the problem. <br /><br />It's time for parts of the so-called security "community" to examine how they interact with others using social media. It's appalling, but thankfully it's not everyone, as you've shown.<br /><br />I appreciate everyone who has shown mutual respect and integrity, despite having different views on this subject. You know who you are. <br /><br />I linked to the original December 24th Gizmodo "truther" story for a reason. I suggest everyone read that article, and interpret my subsequent comments in that context.Richard Bejtlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512184196416665417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-61124749703159803042015-01-09T15:04:53.789-05:002015-01-09T15:04:53.789-05:00Richard, on your related note, you need to give it...Richard, on your related note, you need to give it up and apologize. You are right about attribution and you are right about secrecy.<br /><br />What you are wrong about is even using the word "truther" implies that security professionals who don't believe the DPRK SPE attribution are akin to "911 truthers" who typically blame the government for something far more nefarious than simple negligence. I'm not one of these security professionals -- like you, Daniel Miessler, and many others -- I'm of the opinion that a North Korea leader (probably even the one formally identified) led a mission that resulted in, at the very least, pieces of the SPE breach intended as a cyber attack. Were other nation states or criminals involved? I don't know -- which is what most security professionals are trying to argue.<br /><br />Security professionals are not trying to argue (at least I have not seen this yet) that the USG hacked SPE, created Destover, and covered up all of their actions and involvement through plausible deniability. This is what 911 truthers typically did, so your analogy is offensive in nature and you should apologize.drehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17414510788948258195noreply@blogger.com