tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post115498426469478588..comments2023-10-16T06:06:25.012-04:00Comments on TaoSecurity Blog: New Book ArrivalsRichard Bejtlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13512184196416665417noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-1155062073919495062006-08-08T14:34:00.000-04:002006-08-08T14:34:00.000-04:00edog29,I understand what point it appears that you...edog29,<BR/><BR/>I understand what point it appears that you're trying to make...however, at the school I was at, this is not simply a "moto[sic]"...it's the Honor Code. <BR/><BR/>If you re-read my post, you'll see that I never said anything about there not being those who violated the Honor Code. In fact, I referenced the process by which someone is "drummed out", implying that yes, there are those who are caught, tried, and convicted. If memory serves, a good number of the 'cases' were settled (and the individual "drummed out") as a result of the pre-trial hearing. <BR/><BR/>Is the Honor Code perfect? No. It was created by people, and it's upheld and enforced by people. It's only as good as those who honor it. And it did teach me personal responsibility..or rather, it showed me what would happen if I chose to violate the Honor Code.<BR/><BR/>I'll echo Richard's question...which school did you attend?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-1155046572512026752006-08-08T10:16:00.000-04:002006-08-08T10:16:00.000-04:00edog29,Are you a graduate of any school with an ho...edog29,<BR/><BR/>Are you a graduate of any school with an honor code?Richard Bejtlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512184196416665417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-1155046448640068522006-08-08T10:14:00.000-04:002006-08-08T10:14:00.000-04:00"A cadet does not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate ..."A cadet does not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate those who do."<BR/><BR/>duh? this is a fine moto to live by, but too bad that military schools are just a microcosm of society. there's just as much lieing, cheating, stealing, (and other crimes!) in those institutions as anywhere else in society. this is true everywhere, including corporations, the military, and yes even those secrative spy agencies. making motos like this or writing some corporate or govt policy does not change human nature. there will always be those liers and cheaters among us, no matter where we are (how about in church)! in the security field, those are the "malicous insiders" we worry about. yes, i'm talking about you!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-1155046356821655712006-08-08T10:12:00.000-04:002006-08-08T10:12:00.000-04:00I wonder what Syngress was thinking with that seri...I wonder what Syngress was thinking with that series theme? I am glad it is in small print, because seeing that will make me think, "the real material is elsewhere, but here's how you can get by with second-rate tips and tricks." That's my impression of it... For instance, I'd rather secure a wireless network as opposed to cheat at it. Does that mean it's not really secure, it just seems like it? Does that mean securing a wireless network is so hard, that I have to take different routes?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15357840241031190415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-1155028040958727782006-08-08T05:07:00.000-04:002006-08-08T05:07:00.000-04:00The link to the Phrack article is dead. Archives a...The link to the Phrack article is dead. Archives anyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-1154999002155696932006-08-07T21:03:00.000-04:002006-08-07T21:03:00.000-04:00Hi Harlan,The cadet was often transferred to "Top ...Hi Harlan,<BR/><BR/>The cadet was often transferred to "Top Gun 41", a squadron behind a locked door (no kidding) from which there was usually no return. <BR/><BR/>This makes my <A HREF="http://www.bejtlich.net/img/team_usa_away_small.jpg" REL="nofollow">hockey jersey</A> all the more interesting!<BR/><BR/>There were no ceremonies, certainly nothing like you see in the movies.Richard Bejtlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512184196416665417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088979.post-1154998533494072792006-08-07T20:55:00.000-04:002006-08-07T20:55:00.000-04:00The VMI Honor Code:"A cadet does not lie, cheat, s...The VMI Honor Code:<BR/><BR/>"A cadet does not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate those who do."<BR/><BR/>Tough code to live by, and tough to watch guys (VMI was all-male when I was there) leave after 3 or sometimes 4 yrs.<BR/><BR/>Richard, when someone was caught violating the honor code, what happened? Did you guys have a ceremony, or did the cadet just disappear?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com